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2009 Build Dates / Start of Production - Questions

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#1 ·
OK all of my smart forum friends. I'm trying to get some enthusiasm going and place an order. I haven't read any convincing data re: a start of production for the 09's, other than what some dealers are saying. The date used to be June 16, 08 - for a long time - until the strike. Are there any more "official" dates being shared - any concensus on a date? I'm not too interested in placing an order against an indefinate build.

Cheers & thanks,

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#2 ·
July 21st is the date on GM's most recent Order Management Report for startup on the 2009 Acadias, Enclaves, and Outlooks. It was originally June 16th until the strike pushed everything back.
 
#3 ·
GeoHawk said:
July 21st is the date on GM's most recent Order Management Report for startup on the 2009 Acadias, ...
Thanks Geo - I guess that means that I've got to get serious and just get going, right? It's only money, anway[/color] ;)
 
#5 ·
Re: 2009 Build Dates / Start of Production

MKA said:
My 2009 is scheduled to be built the week of July 21.
Any updates? How did you do this? I have been in contact with many SE USA dealers over the past couple of days & they all have said they can't get pricing. Apparently none have ordered any Acadias yet.
 
#6 ·
Re: 2009 Build Dates / Start of Production

Blue_2009_SLT2 said:
MKA said:
My 2009 is scheduled to be built the week of July 21.
Any updates? How did you do this? I have been in contact with many SE USA dealers over the past couple of days & they all have said they can't get pricing. Apparently none have ordered any Acadias yet.
My dealer doesn't have pricing either but was able to place an order and it has been accepted by GM. No build date yet but hopefully I will have it next week.
 
#7 ·
Mine is scheduled to built this Friday 7/25/08. Althought my dealer doesn't have pricing, we agreed on $100 over invoice.

With lost rebates on the 2008 I cancelled due to the strike and the year to year price increase, I am going to be paying ~ $2500 more out the door based on CARS.com invoice pricing. But I will get cooled seats, blue tooth, a better engine (so I hear) mated with the tranny and a year less depreciation (for what that's worth).

Back in May when I cancelled my 2008 order and decided to order a 2009 I said to myself - Self, what the hell, you can't take it with you. Better me and the little woman ride in comfort now than my kid when we kick it.
 
#8 ·
I know they say 6-8 weeks to build, but is that from "build date", or is that from when your build date is? So, if your build date is Friday, when should you expect delivery? I ask, because we need our car before the end of September. We don't want to order blindly (without prices AT THE Dealer), but worried that not doing so would mean not getting a 2009 in time.

Thoughts?
 
#9 ·
Thoughts? I think this whole process is really screwed up.

GM is building vehicles as we type. Yet 99% of the dealers apparently "don't have pricing". Was this the case last year at this time with the then new 2008 models? I can see if this was the new 6000SUX that has never been made before, but come on, they have been building Acadias for two years now!

To answer your questions, the only way I see having one in that time frame at a decent price is to find a dealer that has allocations & placing an order at invoice. Thus far, I have only found one, Hennessy of Southlake in Atlanta, that will do so. They of course can't value our trade in until delivery, and since they are a couple hundred miles away it is not practical to drive to & from them several times. All the dealers I have talked to have said the 6-8 weeks is from ordering, not start of building. Most think it will be days to weeks until they have pricing.
 
#10 ·
cnr1089 said:
I know they say 6-8 weeks to build, but is that from "build date", or is that from when your build date is? So, if your build date is Friday, when should you expect delivery? I ask, because we need our car before the end of September. We don't want to order blindly (without prices AT THE Dealer), but worried that not doing so would mean not getting a 2009 in time.

Thoughts?
You are probably already pushing the end of September is you order today. I haven't gotten a build date yet, but my dealer thinks it will be mid September when I take delivery.
 
#11 ·
Blue_2009_SLT2 said:
GM is building vehicles as we type. Yet 99% of the dealers apparently "don't have pricing". Was this the case last year at this time with the then new 2008 models? I can see if this was the new 6000SUX that has never been made before, but come on, they have been building Acadias for two years now!
I had already taken delivery of my '08 and been driving it for two weeks at this time last year. Of course, there was no strike in Spring '07 delaying the production of '08s. There were also no major changes to equipment between '07 and '08.
 
#12 ·
My dealer placed the '09 order as soon as he could, but I don't know when that day was. At any rate, he told me that my 7/25/08 build date Acadia should be delivered to me no later than the end of the 1st full week of August 2008.

I have to tell you that when I heard the expected delivery date, my first reaction was that I was going to be getting a vehicle so early in the production process that there would be a lot of "bugs" that will need to be worked out. He assured me, as any $ale$man would, that they have been making these vehicle long enough, and with minimal changes (engine, minimal I ask?) being made to the '09, they better have the bugs worked out of the system by now. We shall see. ;)
 
#13 ·
bseemore said:
My dealer placed the '09 order as soon as he could, but I don't know when that day was. At any rate, he told me that my 7/25/08 build date Acadia should be delivered to me no later than the end of the 1st full week of August 2008.

I'm curious---what date did you buy/order your car from your dealer???? I bought/ordered mine on 6-12-08 and all I hear from my dealer is "it's on order." Can't get any date from him... ::)
 
#14 ·
He placed the order without my knowledge, so I'm not sure of the order date. I'm not so naive not to think that he could just be $tringing me along with the early August date so that I would not go out and buy a 2009 Pilot ;)
 
#16 ·
Finally :thumb:--Got a call from my GMC dealer who told me my Acadia's "Order Status Code" is: 3000 (Accepted by Production Control--Order input into the production system). Looks like things are finally moving (I hope). :cheers:
 
#17 ·
BiggieBoy said:
Finally :thumb:--Got a call from my GMC dealer who told me my Acadia's "Order Status Code is:" 3000 (Accepted by Production Control--Order input into the production system). Looks like things are finally moving (I hope). :cheers:
Sweet. I hope things move right along for you. I got a call from my dealer today as well stating that my 2009 is "scheduled" to be delivered to him Tuesday of next week. I'm not holding my breath just yet......but it sounds promising :thumb:
 
#18 ·
sshippee, that may well make you the first member with an '09 in their possession! Keep us posted.

I did the math, you ordered on 6-5-08 and if delivered on Tuesday 8-5, that is exactly 2 months. Seeing as how production began 7-21, this means yours was built & delivered in about 15 calendar days, allowing a day for delivery.

Good news for the rest of us if what the dealer said is true.

:bs: Would you buy a used car from me? Our prices are so low that NO NEGOTIATION IS NECESSARY! :bs:
 
#20 ·
bseemore said:
Blue - I pick my 2009 up tonight.
That seems oddly and ridiculously quick to me. And that it arrived with the wrong wheels. Are you sure it's the one you ordered and not just one they found that matched what you were looking for except for the 18" wheels? Are you sure that all of the other options are correct?

Don't they give you a VIN ahead of time during the ordering process? Then you could at least match that up to the vehicle when it arrives to ensure that it is the correct one.

I'm really shady on this whole process of special ordering a vehicle. LOL
 
#21 ·
Web Raven said:
Don't they give you a VIN ahead of time during the ordering process? Then you could at least match that up to the vehicle when it arrives to ensure that it is the correct one.

I'm really shady on this whole process of special ordering a vehicle. LOL
Actually Charlene, the dealer will get a 6 digit (letter/number combo) order number for a particular vehicle. That order number is the only way to track the progression of the order through GMs system. The VIN number doesn't come along until the vehicle is actually built and then the order number and VIN number are linked to invoice the vehicle to the dealer.

I can go backwards and find out what the order number for a particular VIN number was, but I can't pull up a order number and find out where it is in the build process. Only the ordering dealer can do that. Clear as mud yet? ;D
 
#22 ·
GeoHawk said:
Web Raven said:
Don't they give you a VIN ahead of time during the ordering process? Then you could at least match that up to the vehicle when it arrives to ensure that it is the correct one.

I'm really shady on this whole process of special ordering a vehicle. LOL
Actually Charlene, the dealer will get a 6 digit (letter/number combo) order number for a particular vehicle. That order number is the only way to track the progression of the order through GMs system. The VIN number doesn't come along until the vehicle is actually built and then the order number and VIN number are linked to invoice the vehicle to the dealer.

I can go backwards and find out what the order number for a particular VIN number was, but I can't pull up a order number and find out where it is in the build process. Only the ordering dealer can do that. Clear as mud yet? ;D
So the dealership does receive the VIN before receiving the actual vehicle? It seems like from what you described, you should still be able to match the VIN to your actual order to see if it is the vehicle that was ordered or just a similar one they happened upon.

Or maybe I'm just stuck in the mud. Should've gotten AWD. ;D
 
#23 ·
Web Raven said:
GeoHawk said:
Web Raven said:
Don't they give you a VIN ahead of time during the ordering process? Then you could at least match that up to the vehicle when it arrives to ensure that it is the correct one.

I'm really shady on this whole process of special ordering a vehicle. LOL
Actually Charlene, the dealer will get a 6 digit (letter/number combo) order number for a particular vehicle. That order number is the only way to track the progression of the order through GMs system. The VIN number doesn't come along until the vehicle is actually built and then the order number and VIN number are linked to invoice the vehicle to the dealer.

I can go backwards and find out what the order number for a particular VIN number was, but I can't pull up a order number and find out where it is in the build process. Only the ordering dealer can do that. Clear as mud yet? ;D
So the dealership does receive the VIN before receiving the actual vehicle? It seems like from what you described, you should still be able to match the VIN to your actual order to see if it is the vehicle that was ordered or just a similar one they happened upon.

Or maybe I'm just stuck in the mud. Should've gotten AWD. ;D
Yes, they will get an invoice from GM very soon after the vehicle rolls off the line with the VIN and order number showing that the vehicle has been built. So the vehicle should be exactly as it was ordered and not one that is just "close enough". However, I have heard of vehicles being built that have an option or two that is incorrect even if the dealer placed the order correctly, but it's pretty rare.

As soon as the vehicle has been invoiced to the dealer, the dealer can technically sell it. I did that with my Silverado to get the 0% financing offer. The 0% was to expire on Feb. 28th, but the truck wouldn't actually make it to the dealer until about March 5th so we did all the paperwork as soon as the truck was built and invoiced.
 
#24 ·
I stopped in and peeked at this string when it first started. I didn't make a comment because I thought it wouldn't be pertinent.
Since then, I have received a call from my dealer telling me that, (1) he had an order number which was five alpha characters in length; (2) he stated that my Acadia, as ordered, would be built the week of July 21st (not on a specific date, as was the good fortune of another of our members); (3) he told me he would provide me with the pricing/actual order/invoice/window sticker and I'm guessing that the paperwork will contain the VIN today (I spoke with him last Friday). He assured me that he would call back Monday. Instead, I had e-mail him. When he responded he stated that the "truck manager" had the actual paper work, but was on vacation and would not return until today. He insisted that he would either call or send me an e-mail. Guess what? No message. :mad: I sent him an e-mail, to which he responded that he couldn't get to the invoice because he would be off work tomorrow, so he will get back to me Thursday. ??? What a runaround. :eek:hno: :help:

Thing is, I have been asking this dealer from the beginning to provide me with some paper work so that I could confirm my order (he insisted that the order he placed was accurate), and I also wanted to monitor the progress of the build using the Status Codes you guys have been referring to in earlier posts/strings. For some reason he has never even acknowledged that he knew anything about the Status Codes. He never seems to respond to my inquiries about the codes directly, chosing instead to change the subject or make reference to other issues regarding this order. I'm starting to think that either he doesn't know about them or understand the importance of the status of the order to his customer, or, he just doesn't care and would prefer not to busy himself with supplying that additional information.
I realize that he probably is not required to disclose such information, but it would go far to reduce my anxiety about even placing this order with GM. :banghead:
Should it really be this hard to place an order for a new vehicle? :( Any thoughts from anyone about how this is being handled? :help:
 
#25 ·
My guess is the owners of the various auto dealerships would much rather have their salespeople and managers beating down potential car buyers, trying to sell autos, than have them "waste time" following production codes and all that kind of stuff. Thats why its like pulling teeth trying to get info out of salespeople...... :banghead: :banghead:
 
#26 ·
Yeah, BiggieBoy
I saw your post earlier about your dealer actually taking the time to give you info on your Status Codes. Way to go! :thumb:

I also noticed that you're not too far from me. Would you mind giving me a "ballpark" area where your dealership is located? I was just curious about the dealership that perhaps I should have gone to. ;)