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I know a lot of us do not care for or respect consumer reports
assessment of reliability.

This site is great for researching automobiles.
The reliability is based on actual repair reports and recalls.
If you have time. look up some of consumer reports favorite manufacturers;
honda and toyota.
They are not so much better than anyone else when you see the actual data!
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/
 

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Having owned the Acadia for almost a year now, I am not suprised with the rating of "above average" in its class. I would actually rate it higher in some of the categories. Yep, I am a happy owner :blob:
 

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Even though the Acadia has it's issues, I think the above average rating is correct
 

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Here is a related post about CR from the Motor Trend forums from last June:
Historical deception at CR

The Ralph Nader/Consumer Reports connection – how Ralph Nader shaped Consumer Reports’ anti-domestic bias


If I signed up for CR, it would only be to tell them how great both of my Corvairs are! I'd be banned in under a day. :p
 

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Copperhead13 said:
I know a lot of us do not care for or respect consumer reports
assessment of reliability.

This site is great for researching automobiles.
The reliability is based on actual repair reports and recalls.
If you have time. look up some of consumer reports favorite manufacturers;
honda and toyota.
They are not so much better than anyone else when you see the actual data!
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/
I don't see the information you're referring to. AFAIK Consumer Guide collects none of their own reliability data.
 

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Choose the used car link, then choose a make and model year.
Here is an example:

2004-2008 GMC Canyon Reliability
Trouble Spots
Consumer Guide's® Auto Editors have scoured repair bulletins and questioned mechanics to search for commonly occurring problems for a particular vehicle. In some cases we also give possible manufacturer-suggested solutions. In many instances these trouble spots are Technical Service Bulletins posted by the manufacturer, however, we have our own expert looking at additional vehicle problems.

Check-engine light: The check engine light may come on accompanied by an engine misfire due to weak exhaust valve springs which must be replaced. (2004-05)
Electrical problem: If the OnStar system quits or won't come on (no power), but comes back to life if the fuse is removed for five minutes, the vehicle communications interface module must be replaced or else the problem will recur. (2005-06)
Fuel gauge: The engine may not start or may stall because the tank is empty yet the gauge shows fuel remaining, or the fuel gauge will not show full after refilling due to sulfur corrosion of the fuel level sender and if after treating with Fuel System Cleaner PLUS the problem remains, the sender may need to be replaced. (2004-06)
Fuel gauge: The fuel gauge may not move on trucks with the 4-cylineder or 5-cylinder engine, and all California models, requiring recalibration of the PCM. (2004)
Hood/trunk: Pickup box must be reinforced with available kit before installing a tool box, cap, etc. to prevent collapse. (2004-06)
Keyless entry: The keyless remote transmitter may not work, but function may be restored if reprogrammed only to quit working again due to water leaking into the body control module from a leak in the cowl. (2005)
Consumer Guide® Estimated Repair Costs
This table lists costs of likely repairs for comparison with other vehicles. The dollar amount includes the cost of the part(s) and labor (based on $50 per hour) for the typical repair without extras or add-ons. Like the pricing information, replacement costs can vary widely depending on region. Expect charges at a new-car dealership to be slightly higher.

Item Name Repair Cost

A/C Compressor $7,300

Alternator $410

Automatic Transmission or Transaxle $2,450

Brakes $420

Clutch, Pressure Plate, Bearing $750

Constant Velocity Joints $320

Exhaust System $640

Radiator $490

Shocks and/or Struts $390

Timing Chain or Belt $540


NHTSA Recall History
2004-06 Canyon: Brake lamps may fail to function, or may illuminate at all times; also, cruise control would become inoperative.
2006 Canyon: Tire and loading information label may list inaccurate vehicle capacity weight. [/color]
 

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Oh, yes, their used car info. They might get this from the same firm that supplies MSN with similar info.

Got to love the $7,300 A/C compressor and the $50/hr labor rate.
 

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Copperhead13 said:
Choose the used car link, then choose a make and model year.
Here is an example:

2004-2008 GMC Canyon Reliability
Trouble Spots
Consumer Guide's® Auto Editors have scoured repair bulletins and questioned mechanics to search for commonly occurring problems for a particular vehicle. In some cases we also give possible manufacturer-suggested solutions. In many instances these trouble spots are Technical Service Bulletins posted by the manufacturer, however, we have our own expert looking at additional vehicle problems.

Check-engine light: The check engine light may come on accompanied by an engine misfire due to weak exhaust valve springs which must be replaced. (2004-05)
Electrical problem: If the OnStar system quits or won't come on (no power), but comes back to life if the fuse is removed for five minutes, the vehicle communications interface module must be replaced or else the problem will recur. (2005-06)
Fuel gauge: The engine may not start or may stall because the tank is empty yet the gauge shows fuel remaining, or the fuel gauge will not show full after refilling due to sulfur corrosion of the fuel level sender and if after treating with Fuel System Cleaner PLUS the problem remains, the sender may need to be replaced. (2004-06)
Fuel gauge: The fuel gauge may not move on trucks with the 4-cylineder or 5-cylinder engine, and all California models, requiring recalibration of the PCM. (2004)
Hood/trunk: Pickup box must be reinforced with available kit before installing a tool box, cap, etc. to prevent collapse. (2004-06)
Keyless entry: The keyless remote transmitter may not work, but function may be restored if reprogrammed only to quit working again due to water leaking into the body control module from a leak in the cowl. (2005)
Consumer Guide® Estimated Repair Costs
This table lists costs of likely repairs for comparison with other vehicles. The dollar amount includes the cost of the part(s) and labor (based on $50 per hour) for the typical repair without extras or add-ons. Like the pricing information, replacement costs can vary widely depending on region. Expect charges at a new-car dealership to be slightly higher.

Item Name Repair Cost

A/C Compressor $7,300

Alternator $410

Automatic Transmission or Transaxle $2,450

Brakes $420

Clutch, Pressure Plate, Bearing $750

Constant Velocity Joints $320

Exhaust System $640

Radiator $490

Shocks and/or Struts $390

Timing Chain or Belt $540


NHTSA Recall History
2004-06 Canyon: Brake lamps may fail to function, or may illuminate at all times; also, cruise control would become inoperative.
2006 Canyon: Tire and loading information label may list inaccurate vehicle capacity weight. [/color]


I guess that buying a great vehicle depends on 'luck of the draw'. I owned an '05 GMC Canyon Crewcab (traded in on the Acadia). It was a great vehicle that had no flaws with the exception of crappy General tires that I replaced at 4k miles. I truly enjoyed that truck.

I can honestly say that I've never bought a 'bad' new vehicle out of the 8 or so new ones.
 

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Oh, yes, their used car info. They might get this from the same firm that supplies MSN with similar info.

Got to love the $7,300 A/C compressor and the $50/hr labor rate.
Holy crap!!!! :jaw:

$7,300 for the A/C compressor repair is absolutely ridiculous. What kind of mark-up is this? GMPartsDirect.com sells this compressor assembly for $267.62. There's no way you could have $7,000 in labor for the repair.
 

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mkaresh said:
Oh, yes, their used car info. They might get this from the same firm that supplies MSN with similar info.

Got to love the $7,300 A/C compressor and the $50/hr labor rate.
Holy crap!!!! :jaw:

$7,300 for the A/C compressor repair is absolutely ridiculous. What kind of mark-up is this? GMPartsDirect.com sells this compressor assembly for $267.62. There's no way you could have $7,000 in labor for the repair.
Something definitely doesn't seem right with that :binky:
 

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I've bought CG's price guide every year since 1983--still have them all. Love their format, but their data quality is awful.

Most likely they added a zero on the compressor price. The labor rate--maybe they haven't updated that bit of text in a decade? I'd love to find a shop that charged only $50/hr.
 
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