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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2017, 04:16:32 PM »

lemuel_daphne, why did you feel the need to change calipers? Just curious.
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2017, 05:19:09 PM »

lemuel_daphne, why did you feel the need to change calipers? Just curious.

I replaced the calipers due to the fact that the bleeder valve (speedbleeder.com) that I installed 4 years ago no longer fits the hole perfectly whenever I do a brake bleed (loose, which may help the air to get in). I didn't realize this after installing the bleeder valve that it has a different size than the original bleeder screw, thus creating a bigger hole on the bleeder screw location which in turn renders the calipers not usable. It still works, but I'm worried overtime the brake bleeder screw may lose it purpose so I decided to change the calipers. So here I am, with brand new rotors, brake pads  and calipers  but no stopping power.
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2017, 05:31:57 PM »

Did you bleed the brakes with the new caliper bleed valves using the same method you would with the speed bleeder?
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2017, 11:30:03 AM »

Did you bleed the brakes with the new caliper bleed valves using the same method you would with the speed bleeder?

Yes I did seems pretty straightforward..
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2017, 11:40:34 AM »

So after talking to the service advisor and was told I'm on the hook for  2 hour labour charge (C$145/per hour) the culprit is incorrect installation of front calipers (calipers for left, was installed at right and vice versa). Luckily, rear calipers are fine no issues there. How did I miss this part? I know that I followed the service manual, and didn't noticed any marker on the new calipers that says R (right) or L (left). Is this true? I may have to find out after later this afternoon. O well, I guess I have to learn it the hard way! Thanks again folks!
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2017, 12:25:00 PM »

So after talking to the service advisor and was told I'm on the hook for  2 hour labour charge (C$145/per hour) the culprit is incorrect installation of front calipers (calipers for left, was installed at right and vice versa). Luckily, rear calipers are fine no issues there. How did I miss this part? I know that I followed the service manual, and didn't noticed any marker on the new calipers that says R (right) or L (left). Is this true? I may have to find out after later this afternoon. O well, I guess I have to learn it the hard way! Thanks again folks!

Rock Auto does show separate part numbers for each corner of the car.
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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2017, 12:32:08 PM »

Rock Auto does show separate part numbers for each corner of the car.

I have looked at that document that I received from rockauto and probably didn't notice any difference, I know it was really an oversight on my part due to the fact I was in hurry as its getting late while at the same time, I just want this thing to be done. Learned myself a lesson and the actual $$$ involved. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2017, 12:45:11 PM »

Yes I did seems pretty straightforward..

That could have been part of the problem, too. Regular bleed valves don't operate the same. Gotta be sure bleeder valve is closed before the pedal is released.
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2017, 01:05:29 PM »

So after talking to the service advisor and was told I'm on the hook for  2 hour labour charge (C$145/per hour) the culprit is incorrect installation of front calipers (calipers for left, was installed at right and vice versa). Luckily, rear calipers are fine no issues there. How did I miss this part? I know that I followed the service manual, and didn't noticed any marker on the new calipers that says R (right) or L (left). Is this true? I may have to find out after later this afternoon. O well, I guess I have to learn it the hard way! Thanks again folks!


yeah I see them on the rears.
BUt I looked over the pics I have of my front calipers-- and did not see a L/R on the fronts. (based on the pics I have)

R-----




and L---






but for front-- I dont see a big L or R

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2017, 03:57:27 PM »

For calipers, the bleed screws go on top, or the "high" side.    If you have them on the wrong side (unless you did some magic with the brake lines or mounting brackets), they will be towards the bottom.  So, they may not be marked, but you'll know....
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2017, 05:31:00 PM »

For calipers, the bleed screws go on top, or the "high" side.    If you have them on the wrong side (unless you did some magic with the brake lines or mounting brackets), they will be towards the bottom.  So, they may not be marked, but you'll know....

Correct!!!!  If the bleeder is on the bottom, air gets trapped at the top of the cylinder and will never be pushed out when bleeding the brakes.  Only brake fluid will come out.

When the bleeder is on the top, the air is up there already and is pushed out by the brake fluid as the pedal is pumped or pushed.
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2017, 06:13:23 PM »

It's good to compare new parts side by side with the old while they're still on the car when something isn't clearly marked 'L' or 'R.'
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