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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 12:32:19 PM »

I agree with Red Rocker that Pontiac ought to be the one they cut.  Honestly Saturn could go too in my opinion.  Consolidate both into Chevy and go through with the thought to sell Hummer (immediate lowering of the GM EPA mileage average to help with the new CAFE standards). 

I don't agree that GMC can be made an extension of Chevy, like an SS or Denali version.  The vehicles would still have to get redesigned to pull it off.  And as has been stated above, the content and looks are what drew me to a GMC in the first place.  I also fall into the consumer base that GMC has a perceived better quality than a Chevy.  The only Chevy I would purchase is a Corvette or Tahoe, otherwise I have no use for the brand.     
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2008, 05:19:35 PM »

If the content and pricing were the same, I wouldn't have a preference between a GMC and a Chevy (despite the awful name, Traverse).  In my eyes, they are equal.

Ditto for me.  Badge means next to nothing to me.  Function means everything.  I absolutely would have considered the Traverse and did consider the Outlook when I bought.  If the Acadia hadn't been available I simply would have bought an Outlook. 

I can't see buying a Chevy.  There has been an improvement in comfort and quality, but when we started looking, it was at minivans and the Chevy just was cheap compared to the Buick, and we were all set to buy a Buick mini when we fell in love with the Acadia on the lot. 

But, while the GMC look makes the Acadia clearly the badass of the Lambda line, we could have easily opted for the Enclave if it was available (horrible backend, but somewhat ok front, but just as wonderful from the front seats).  The Saturn would be ok too, the option mix was wrong for us, with the GMC just right. 

I can't see them killing Acadia, what I bet this really might be is that the Acadia may not get a next gen model in 2011/2012, but instead may be getting something more radical, perhaps we will be hearing about the Acadia being paired with a Volt drive system as the next gen Acadia.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 09:49:33 PM »

No one can understand the merchandising and lineup decisions at GM. I learned a lot about the behind the scenes workings when I read a book about the Corvette from first through fifth generations.

I feel bad every time I see the retro Mustang (well executed and marketed car, and they used a holographic Steve McQueen in one of the ads) and think they could still be selling the Camaro/Trans Am (and not as a retro 1973 Toyota Celica) if they bothered to market the car. The new Challenger is a beautiful car and I bet Dodge will sell a bunch of them even with $4/gallon gas. I'd sooner spend $30K there than on the new Camaro.

Now that I think of it, I don't recall seeing any Lambda ads on TV.

When I bought my 4th generation Trans Am (I've had 2) it was the styling that decided it over the Camaro (same basic car). You could get either one equipped with the same stuff. The only difference that stands out (I'm sure there were more) is the radio in the Camaro had speed sensitive volume.

I'm new to the Lambda scene, and from the perspective of a new buyer, my selection is really governed by the options. Due to this, what I want is a unique vehicle and only available as an Acadia, and an SLT-2 at that. If I had my "druthers" I'd buy a Traverse IF I could get the cooled seats (only on the 1LZ), a center bench (not available on the 1LZ) and the HUD (Acadia only).

It would be different if this was new tech, but the '96 Bonneville SSEi we had came with a HUD.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2008, 10:14:03 PM »

Being an owner of a 2007 Acadia and past owner of the Chevy s-10 blazer some years back I don't understand why GM needs at least 6 different companies to sell there products.  I always thought that GMC should sell the trucks and trucks only Chevy should sell the cars only and the caddy be there luxury niche.  I know I am ignorant in the ways of the carmaker procedures but building the same car and putting a different badge on each one seems silly don't you think?

 I am in a union so I am not anti union in any way but it just seems there is so much waste with the American automotive industry.

Oh by-the-way I love my Acadia and loved my S-10 Blazer!!
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2008, 10:51:11 PM »

Being an owner of a 2007 Acadia and past owner of the Chevy s-10 blazer some years back I don't understand why GM needs at least 6 different companies to sell their products.  I always thought that GMC should sell the trucks and trucks only Chevy should sell the cars only and the caddy be there luxury niche.  I know I am ignorant in the ways of the carmaker procedures but building the same car and putting a different badge on each one seems silly don't you think?

Sorry, that makes too much sense to be feasible!
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2008, 09:42:57 AM »

See latest on GM reorg...


GM denies any more brands under review

Automotive News | July 7, 2008 - 1:15 am EST

DETROIT -- A General Motors spokesman today denied the automaker is reviewing any more brands besides Hummer for possible sale.

The Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, reported today that GM could shed thousands of white-collar jobs and sell or cease producing certain brands as part of a strategy reevaluation.

The job cuts are likely to be approved when GM's board of directors meets in early August. The reduction would be in addition to earlier announced cuts. The management may also suggest options for raising additional cash to help GM make it through the downturn, and may discuss cutting certain brands, the sources said.

Both moves are part of a broader re-evaluation of GM's strategy and of its ability to meet an internal projection of returning to profitability in 2010, these people said.

GM denied the report.

"No other GM brand (besides Hummmer) is under strategic review, GM spokesman Tony Cervone said in an e-mail to Automotive News today.

GM's sales chief Mark LaNeve, made similar comments to journalists last week.

GM sells under eight different brands, but most, including Buick, Saturn and Saab, struggle to attract buyers. The company has already decided to put its Hummer division up for sale and prospective buyers are thought to include Mahindra & Mahindra.

On the job cuts, GM employs 76,000 white-collar workers globally, with the bulk of the force based in North America, said the report.

All but Cadillac and Chevrolet, which GM considers core to its business, are undergoing close scrutiny, other people said.

In the past few years, as GM has run up massive losses, some board members and some executives have on occasion raised questions about its plethora of brands, only to be rebuffed by CEO Rick Wagoner, the paper said.

The company, hit by rising oil and raw material prices, the credit crunch and the housing downturn, will need to raise as much as $15 billion (9.6 billion euros) in cash to shore up liquidity and bankruptcy is "not impossible" if the U.S. auto market continues to slump, Merrill Lynch said last week.

Thomson Financial and Reuters contributed to this report

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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2008, 10:01:38 PM »

Read a news report today that a GM exec sent an email out to all dealerships claiming that aside from Hummer, no other GM brands are being considered for sale or contraction.  Also said the dealers will be kept in the loop early if anything changes.  I believe the link is on MSNBC, if anyone is interested.

Could be just PR, but it gives me some hope that GMC may not be dead just yet.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 05:13:01 PM »

This topic somehow shifted from the original story. the original story from GMI was that two products from GMC were getting cut, including the next gen Acadia in the 2011-2012 timeframe. It was specifically pointed out that GMC was NOT being cut. So my take all along has been how can you cut the (probably) most profitable and (certainly) most fuel efficient GMC made in this economy? Assuming GMC stays intact, and there's no reason to believe it won't based on both the original post AND these new updates stating the same, how can they keep the gas hogs and cut the fuel efficient model?

As I said in my first reply, I expect this story to fall on its face soon.
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2008, 08:02:00 PM »

I would expect the Acadia to go hybrid, before it is cut.
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2008, 08:44:42 PM »

Not so Fast! I just read in the latest issue of Popular Mechanics that the 2010 Acadia and Enclave will get the same TDI Diesel that goes into the Cadillac CTS in 2010.  I, for one, am happy about that.  blob
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2008, 10:06:37 PM »

What kind of mileage will be expected?
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2008, 05:00:54 PM »

With no truly unique light car/truck models, GMC is obviously redundant except as a marketing scheme (which is how GMC began selling  light duty vehicles in the first place).   And their line up is all SUVs and trucks, anathema in today's rush toward fuel efficiency.  But that doesn't explain how it got to be GM's 3rd largest selling brand - they must be doing something right. But does it make sense to revamp the GMC product line with small cars and hybrids? Probably not, except that the GMC brand name might bring in customers that Chevy might not.

GM surely believes that customers who buy GMC (and Saturn too) would buy Chevy or Pontiac instead. I'm not so sure. I know I was a lot more enthusiastic for a GMC car than counterparts from another division.  We were looking at an Envoy when the Acadia came out - a Trailblazer was not in the running, even though there is little real difference from an Envoy.  We have owned a few Chevies in the past, mostly because of financial incentives, but that's not where my mindset is. For me, the loss of the GMC brand would lead me to look elsewhere first.

I always felt that GMC itself did little to promote the Acadia in terms of advertising. People still come up to me and ask what it is and "I didn't know GMC had a car like that" is a frequent comment.

 I initially wanted an 09 Traverse the only thing that berought me to the Acadia was the fact that I wasn't going to be able to take delivery of a new 09 Traverse till after the middle of Oct and I needed it at the beginning of the month. My lease van is a Pontiac and I also own a Chev Malibu and have owned Buicks etc so I run the gamut for GM vehicles and I truly like them all equally. If the acadia gets axed I will purchase my replacement accordingly be it a Traverse (if it is the same vehicle) at that time or the Pontiac version I am not too pickly about the brand of GM vehicle I buy but I always buy GM.
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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 02:16:10 AM »

I think that given GM's management history, scrapping the Acadia for a possible short term gain could happen.  However, why not scrap the Yukon and improve the Hybrid engine with a few more mpg and offer the Acadia as others have suggested?  The truck and suv are on their way out as the hybrid and other "green" options will take their place in the not so distant future, but the Acadia seems to impress for now.  I guess we will see what managerial screw-up GM can come up with this time and hope it doesn't involve the Acadia in a negative way. 
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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 08:12:09 AM »

 Ditto Mncm.

To many of us, GM making a good (and obvious) management decision to keep and even enhance the Acadia would serve a lot of purposes, including but not the least of which would be to make the buying public happy. I'm certain that their market research indicates to them that consumers are clamoring for an Acadia or her sister Lambdas.  By every indication GM has hit a home run by trotting out and improving the Acadia to grab a corner on the market that straddles SUV's, trucks and sedans. It seems to me that building on this particular badge would draw in those customers who don't want the headaches and poor gas mileage from trucks and SUV's while offering comfort, passenger cabin room, stowing capacity, and the ability to tow moderate to light weight trailers/boats (with the trailering package of course). To us it would be a no brainer. To the powers-that-be in Detroit, it must be something else . . .  :Smiley  wink

But I guess that would be too much like right . . . Huh?   :Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2008, 01:11:28 PM »

If they discontinue the Acadia[GMC Line] in 3 years or less and if I put mine in storage around that time, will my 1st year Acadia be a collectors item worth $200,000 in 20 years?  Like an old Hudson?
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2008, 02:43:11 PM »

Let's wait and see . . . Grin
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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2008, 03:56:55 PM »

I enjoy driving mine too much to do that.  Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2008, 04:35:04 PM »

I enjoy driving mine too much to do that.  Smiley

Ya, but I'm looking for the $$$$$  Don't you know!  Return in investment!  blob
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