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« on: June 30, 2008, 01:13:03 PM »


Found this on GM Inside News:

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GMI has learned that GM recently canceled two GMC product programs. The next-generation GMC Acadia program is the first program to be cut from the product plans at GMC. Originally the Acadia was slated to stay on with the next generation lineup of Lambda crossovers, while the closely-related Saturn Outlook would not be. However, that has obviously changed. As far as we know, the Outlook is still dead in the water for the next-generation.


http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/gmi-exclusive-some-gmc-product-programs-bite-dust-66182/
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 01:59:43 PM »

This is a very disturbing development.  Shocked  I'm hoping, as I am sure all of you are, that there is some mistake or misunderstanding about the GM announcement (or press leak).  Huh? Shocked  Aside from the obvious mistake of dropping that line of vehicle production and the related business ramifications, it would seriously disappoint a lot of people (not the least of which will be the members of this forum).  Oh No

I followed the link and from what I read a lot of people think it's a good idea to just dump the Acadia. But, many also acknowledge that it is an award winning addition to the GM stable and a real crowd pleaser (even when compared with the Outlook and Enclave). What gives?  Angry  Sad

Let's just hope this is a mistake or unfounded rumor. If it is true I will have to seriously reconsider letting my new order stand.  Help  Undecided

Is there anyone else out there that has a handle on this news?   confused
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 02:51:09 PM »

You know had it not been for the fact that my wife's family is all about GM(both her father and grandfather worked for the company) I would seriously have to reconsider my purchase.  I love the Acadia and many other GM vehicles, but the company has some of the worst management and union problems than anything out there.  I know we as consumers don't know the whole story, but on the surface it sure seems like we could make better decisions to help keep this company alive.  I saw responses to the link that someone comments about getting rid of Rick Wagoner...I'm beginning to concur with this feeling, but would take it a few steps further and reconsider the members of the board, Bob Lutz, and probably numerous bean-counters as well. 
 

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 03:00:07 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind from the article:

"Product plans change on a daily basis at GM. Right now in particular, product plans are getting a shake-up constantly."

It's kind of like a saying about the weather here in the midwest: "Don't like the weather?  Just wait 10 minutes." 
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 04:20:38 PM »

GMI likes to be the first to the block with news, so it's difficult to take breaking stuff from them too seriously until more sources are named. Lambdas are very profitable vehicles for GM. Currently, the Acadia outsells the other two combined. It also outsells the Yukon, almost 2 to 1 so far in 2008. In fact, it's the number 2 selling GMC by a wide margin, second only to the Sierra.

In other words, I either expect the very worst news (GMC is axed altogether), or a retraction of this statement shortly...
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 07:45:35 PM »

Umm..very troubling indeed...I came from BMW...but BMW is too expensive for me now, because I got married and have a 1 year old.  I looked at GMC beacuse of the Acadia and Yukon Denali.  The Acadia has all the "bells and whisltes" of the german compaines.  Yeah some of the interior plastics are cheap, but the look good and hold up well.

Right to my point....As gas prices rise and the American ecomony slowing...good luck selling the monster Yukons and Escalades.  As I have read, Hummer is either being sold or on its way out.  GM is making a mistake killing the Acadia, and probably losing a repeat cutomer as well when it goes.  Just my 2cents
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 08:50:29 PM »

I have to echo the thoughts of others here.  I'm a converted import buyer (I've owned Hondas and a Lexus, all purchased new).  The Acadia was my first domestic purchase made after conducting a ton of research.  Its a great product, and if these rumors are true, they're cutting off their foot as soon as they finally get the choice of shoe right.  Absolutely mystifying., unless they're truly not concerned with bringing new buyers into the GM fold.    Hate to say it, but if GM scraps the Acadia- or worse GMC- either of which will likely clobber resale value of the Acadia I just purchased- they lose this customer for life.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 07:39:33 AM »

It's sort of interesting to note that several members who have posted here cited similar experiences and reasons for choosing the Acadia over other models. I was also a long time foreign vehicle owner (BMW), and a very satisfied one at that. The only reason I decided to leave my beloved BMW's was because they did not offer enough in the way of driver's leg room, passenger space, and at reasonable prices (I would have forgone the price issue - "you get what you pay for.")   thumbs up

But, when I really finally accepted that neither BMW or Mercedes offered what I needed, I came upon the Acadia. With all the appointments, options, electronics, room, handling - all the stuff that any car enthusiast would want, Acadia was the obvious choice. But, when you add in all the potential problems, TSB, complaints, etc. and you still decide to give GM a chance . . . well, that says a lot about faith (in a company).  Smiley

Now, out of the blue, with the potential for the GMC Acadia to help pull GM back into profitability, they decide to cut the division - how does that make sense?  Huh?   Shocked

Sorry . . . I'm just venting a little bit. Let's hope none of this is true. Wouldn't you think GM would do some sort of survey and see what their customer base wants?  confused  Huh?

The powers that be are definitely  Lame

Check out this article from another related thread:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/outlooks-not-good-for-acadia-or-gmc-or-buick/

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/gmi-exclusive-some-gmc-product-programs-bite-dust-66182/

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2008, 09:21:14 AM »

So that sort of begs the question(s)...

Did you buy the vehicle because of the content/quality/style or because it's called Acadia or because it's branded a GMC?

The content/quality/style could just as easily be sold as a Chevy, and GM could eliminate a totally redundant division that, aside from the Acadia, is selling trucks and SUVs that people aren't buying now.

GM should be concerned about the overall health of the company, even at the expense of one (or more) of its brands.  The idea of shutting down GMC is not "out of the blue"; the debate has been out there for years...
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2008, 10:20:29 AM »

I don't disagree about what was said about GM downsizing by dumping GMC. In order for the corporation to continue to operate I'm certain major changes and cost-cutting measures will have to be taken. Nothing is sacred to ensure the survival of the overall company.

Personally, I was drawn to what I believe is better content/quality/style under the GMC badge, whether or not there is an actual or just a perceived difference. The reality is that there are no major differences between the Lambdas (save for a different set of option packages and some subtle design differences), but they were significant enough to me that I made a choice among the three and decided on the Acadia.

Perhaps you are correct - the GMC division is a redundancy that should be eliminated eventually. But, that depends on which customers' " . . .ox is being gored." It affects me because I, for whatever reason, perfer the Acadia over the other models. Given the number of members of this forum, I'm sure there are a lot of others who feel the same way.  Soapbox
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2008, 11:13:04 AM »

I have to echo the thoughts of others here.  I'm a converted import buyer (I've owned Hondas and a Lexus, all purchased new).  The Acadia was my first domestic purchase made after conducting a ton of research.  Its a great product, and if these rumors are true, they're cutting off their foot as soon as they finally get the choice of shoe right.  Absolutely mystifying., unless they're truly not concerned with bringing new buyers into the GM fold.    Hate to say it, but if GM scraps the Acadia- or worse GMC- either of which will likely clobber resale value of the Acadia I just purchased- they lose this customer for life.

Same here. The Acadia is my first American vehicle (owned Honda, Acura & Nissan vehicles, all purchased new). I've had more problems with the Acadia than any vehicle I've owned, but it does not take away my love for the Acadia. There goes the resale value. IMO... they should cut Saturn, Buick or Pontiac before they dump GMC. My next vehicle will not be a product from GM!
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2008, 01:32:34 PM »

With no truly unique light car/truck models, GMC is obviously redundant except as a marketing scheme (which is how GMC began selling  light duty vehicles in the first place).   And their line up is all SUVs and trucks, anathema in today's rush toward fuel efficiency.  But that doesn't explain how it got to be GM's 3rd largest selling brand - they must be doing something right. But does it make sense to revamp the GMC product line with small cars and hybrids? Probably not, except that the GMC brand name might bring in customers that Chevy might not.

GM surely believes that customers who buy GMC (and Saturn too) would buy Chevy or Pontiac instead. I'm not so sure. I know I was a lot more enthusiastic for a GMC car than counterparts from another division.  We were looking at an Envoy when the Acadia came out - a Trailblazer was not in the running, even though there is little real difference from an Envoy.  We have owned a few Chevies in the past, mostly because of financial incentives, but that's not where my mindset is. For me, the loss of the GMC brand would lead me to look elsewhere first.

I always felt that GMC itself did little to promote the Acadia in terms of advertising. People still come up to me and ask what it is and "I didn't know GMC had a car like that" is a frequent comment.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2008, 02:49:57 PM »

GMC's rise to be the third best selling GM brand is a function of marketing and consumer preference for trucks and SUVs.  GM marketing convinced a lot of people that a GMC was somehow more/better than the same vehicle packaged as a Chevy.  You're right that some people would look at a GMC, but not a Chevy or Saturn.  But if GM created a sub-brand within Chevrolet, similar to Denali within GMC, maybe they can keep a bigger customer base without the cost of a separate brand.

If the content and pricing were the same, I wouldn't have a preference between a GMC and a Chevy (despite the awful name, Traverse).  In my eyes, they are equal.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2008, 03:09:57 PM »

If the content and pricing were the same, I wouldn't have a preference between a GMC and a Chevy (despite the awful name, Traverse).  In my eyes, they are equal.

Ditto for me.  Badge means next to nothing to me.  Function means everything.  I absolutely would have considered the Traverse and did consider the Outlook when I bought.  If the Acadia hadn't been available I simply would have bought an Outlook. 
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2008, 04:57:06 PM »

Design is the main deal for me, never been a fan of Chevy design, although the new Malibu is of exception. For me, GMC has always been the prefered choice. Like others I am a "import" convert, owned two Nissans and a Subaru since I got my license at 17, traded in my Nissan Xterra for the Acadia due to its design. All things being equal, i.e. mechanics, content, and major options, the deciding factor for many people is design.  If GMC as a brand is killed off, I will not be purchasing another GM vehicle.  I have always liked the Yukon better over the Tahoe, same car by all standards, but there is just something about the GMC design that speaks to me. Saturn Outlook's front end is offensive in my opinion, Buick is overly curvy, Chevy looks like plain vanilla - gets lost in the crowd. The Acadia has powerful mid section lines that blends in perfectly with a soft frontal siloette, perfectly balanced design. The interior layout is clean, functional, crome accents adds just a touch of show.
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2008, 05:22:32 PM »

GMC's rise to be the third best selling GM brand is a function of marketing and consumer preference for trucks and SUVs. 
Actually, GMC is the #2 selling GM Brand behind Chevy for at least the past 2 years. That's really my biggest issue with this story. I don't know the inner workings of the company, but being the #2 selling brand, having highly profitable products like the Denali line and the Acadia AND the fact that, indeed, everything is badge engineered means no extra R&D costs would mean to me that GMC costs only advertising dollars and would probably net the most return on investment in the GM lineup.

That said, GM needs to do what it needs to do to survive in this economy of sky high oil prices, plummeting home values and weak US dollar. From a buyers perspective, I simply thought the Acadia was the best looking and best packaged version of the Lambda, but I would not be unhappy with any of the other models.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2008, 08:09:20 PM »

So that sort of begs the question(s)...

Did you buy the vehicle because of the content/quality/style or because it's called Acadia or because it's branded a GMC?

The content/quality/style could just as easily be sold as a Chevy, and GM could eliminate a totally redundant division that, aside from the Acadia, is selling trucks and SUVs that people aren't buying now.

GM should be concerned about the overall health of the company, even at the expense of one (or more) of its brands.  The idea of shutting down GMC is not "out of the blue"; the debate has been out there for years...

Why does it have to be "content/quality/style or" brand/mark?  All of those issues factored into our decision.  If you make your buying decisions purely on features and utility alone- good for you.  But that's not how most people operate.

You can be dismissive about the distinction between GMC and Chevy if you wish, but its a simple fact that people perceive a prestige/quality difference between the two.  Perception = $$, whether its logical or not.  Witness resale values if you don't believe me.  As for Chevy, the Traverse wasn't available when we were looking, but quite frankly, I wouldn't have bought one even if it had been available.  The exterior styling is not my cup of tea.  I actually did consider the Enclave, but I wasn't happy about the price premium involved (or the soft ride), and it really would have taken some doing to convince my wife to roll with a Buick.  The Saturn may have been an option, but the Outlook seems to be way outside of their brand concept, and I've never quite gotten over the gimmicky plastic panels most folks associate with Saturn.  Call me shallow, but I simply would not have been likely to shell out that much money for a Saturn.

You're certainly correct that GM is entitled to take their financial health into account when making their strategic decisions (they would be crazy not to), just as I'm entitled to take whatever considerations I darn well want into account when I throw $40k down on a vehicle.  If GM pulls an Oldsmobile on the resale/value of my Acadia, they won't be getting my repeat business.  Period.

And no, debate about GMC's viability has not been widely known.  Perhaps its not "out of the blue" for industry insiders or enthusiasts, but I daresay the rest of us plebian purchasers have good cause to be PO'd.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2008, 01:04:50 AM »

SLTee,

I wasn't being dismissive of the distinction between GMC and Chevy; at least that wasn't my intention.  To the contrary, kudos to GM marketing for creating the perception that a GMC is somehow more than a Chevy.

The point I am making is that, I think, most of us bought the Acadia for its content and style, and not because it is a GMC or because its named Acadia.  If that content and style had a different brand or name attached, many of us would have still bought the vehicle.

For what it's worth, I agree with everything you say about the Outlook and Enclave.  I love the look/styling of the Acadia.  But I didn't buy it because it's a GMC and I didn't buy it because it's called Acadia.

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Thanks for the correction.  That further illustrates why the rumors of GMC's demise seem plausible.  If your #2 brand is based on trucks, and the bottom falls out of the truck market, it won't be your #2 brand for long - at least not in profits.  If $4 gas is here to stay, it's hard to see the truck market coming back and it's hard to see GMC selling enough trucks to survive.  It's too bad GM wouldn't consider killing off Chevy trucks and keeping GMC...

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2008, 07:58:35 AM »


I completely agreee with the idea that I will not be purchasing another GM if the GMC line get's axed.  This would be very short sighted for GM to cut GMC in the midst of $4.00 gas...American's are still going to purchase trucks, period.  We need them to tow on the weekends and go to work during the week.  GM is on the cutting edge of fuel efficiency and arguably, going to be the leader in then next couple years in alternative modes of powering our vehicles. 

If you look at the past 5 or 10 year periods...GMC is General Motors #1 selling brand.  It's just in the past few months that they have slipped to #2 with higher fuel prices. 

Let's look at Pontiac.  They really don't offer a truck.  The Torrent is the closest thing and there are SO many other choices out there...I can't imagine a vehicle like that is very profitable for GM.  The G8 is a fantastic vehicle...but it's never going to be a volume leader.  Grand Prix is somewhat dead in the water, G5 has never sold in amounts GM was looking for.  The G6 is an improvement, but again...very redundant over what you can get from Chevy (in an SS version??).  That leaves the Solstice (how much is GM loosing on this one?) and the Vibe (a toyota). 

GMC plays in the big truck area.  Industrial/Commercial.  They are still going to sell those trucks...maybe in smaller volumes, but they will still be profitable for GM for sure. 

Oldsmobile was so redundant...it really made sense to kill that brand...in the same way Mercury is redundant over at Ford.  Pontiac is the same way.  Pontiac has really never taken off as the performance brand at GM and (I do believe their styling is pretty nice) the vehicles are, pretty much, all sold in other places.  You can sell the public on killing Pontiac...it's really going to be tough to sell the public on killing off GMC. 

I know the GMC's are also rebrands of other GM vehicles...but the price premium GM enjoys...their VAST dealer network and the money they make in the commercial side of the biz seem, to me, like strong reasons to keep GMC.

...just my thoughts...

 

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 09:50:50 AM »

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Just wondering...are you from Omaha or just passing through?

From Omaha - born and raised here. 
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 12:32:19 PM »

I agree with Red Rocker that Pontiac ought to be the one they cut.  Honestly Saturn could go too in my opinion.  Consolidate both into Chevy and go through with the thought to sell Hummer (immediate lowering of the GM EPA mileage average to help with the new CAFE standards). 

I don't agree that GMC can be made an extension of Chevy, like an SS or Denali version.  The vehicles would still have to get redesigned to pull it off.  And as has been stated above, the content and looks are what drew me to a GMC in the first place.  I also fall into the consumer base that GMC has a perceived better quality than a Chevy.  The only Chevy I would purchase is a Corvette or Tahoe, otherwise I have no use for the brand.     
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2008, 05:19:35 PM »

If the content and pricing were the same, I wouldn't have a preference between a GMC and a Chevy (despite the awful name, Traverse).  In my eyes, they are equal.

Ditto for me.  Badge means next to nothing to me.  Function means everything.  I absolutely would have considered the Traverse and did consider the Outlook when I bought.  If the Acadia hadn't been available I simply would have bought an Outlook. 

I can't see buying a Chevy.  There has been an improvement in comfort and quality, but when we started looking, it was at minivans and the Chevy just was cheap compared to the Buick, and we were all set to buy a Buick mini when we fell in love with the Acadia on the lot. 

But, while the GMC look makes the Acadia clearly the badass of the Lambda line, we could have easily opted for the Enclave if it was available (horrible backend, but somewhat ok front, but just as wonderful from the front seats).  The Saturn would be ok too, the option mix was wrong for us, with the GMC just right. 

I can't see them killing Acadia, what I bet this really might be is that the Acadia may not get a next gen model in 2011/2012, but instead may be getting something more radical, perhaps we will be hearing about the Acadia being paired with a Volt drive system as the next gen Acadia.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 09:49:33 PM »

No one can understand the merchandising and lineup decisions at GM. I learned a lot about the behind the scenes workings when I read a book about the Corvette from first through fifth generations.

I feel bad every time I see the retro Mustang (well executed and marketed car, and they used a holographic Steve McQueen in one of the ads) and think they could still be selling the Camaro/Trans Am (and not as a retro 1973 Toyota Celica) if they bothered to market the car. The new Challenger is a beautiful car and I bet Dodge will sell a bunch of them even with $4/gallon gas. I'd sooner spend $30K there than on the new Camaro.

Now that I think of it, I don't recall seeing any Lambda ads on TV.

When I bought my 4th generation Trans Am (I've had 2) it was the styling that decided it over the Camaro (same basic car). You could get either one equipped with the same stuff. The only difference that stands out (I'm sure there were more) is the radio in the Camaro had speed sensitive volume.

I'm new to the Lambda scene, and from the perspective of a new buyer, my selection is really governed by the options. Due to this, what I want is a unique vehicle and only available as an Acadia, and an SLT-2 at that. If I had my "druthers" I'd buy a Traverse IF I could get the cooled seats (only on the 1LZ), a center bench (not available on the 1LZ) and the HUD (Acadia only).

It would be different if this was new tech, but the '96 Bonneville SSEi we had came with a HUD.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2008, 10:14:03 PM »

Being an owner of a 2007 Acadia and past owner of the Chevy s-10 blazer some years back I don't understand why GM needs at least 6 different companies to sell there products.  I always thought that GMC should sell the trucks and trucks only Chevy should sell the cars only and the caddy be there luxury niche.  I know I am ignorant in the ways of the carmaker procedures but building the same car and putting a different badge on each one seems silly don't you think?

 I am in a union so I am not anti union in any way but it just seems there is so much waste with the American automotive industry.

Oh by-the-way I love my Acadia and loved my S-10 Blazer!!
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2008, 10:51:11 PM »

Being an owner of a 2007 Acadia and past owner of the Chevy s-10 blazer some years back I don't understand why GM needs at least 6 different companies to sell their products.  I always thought that GMC should sell the trucks and trucks only Chevy should sell the cars only and the caddy be there luxury niche.  I know I am ignorant in the ways of the carmaker procedures but building the same car and putting a different badge on each one seems silly don't you think?

Sorry, that makes too much sense to be feasible!
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2008, 09:42:57 AM »

See latest on GM reorg...


GM denies any more brands under review

Automotive News | July 7, 2008 - 1:15 am EST

DETROIT -- A General Motors spokesman today denied the automaker is reviewing any more brands besides Hummer for possible sale.

The Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, reported today that GM could shed thousands of white-collar jobs and sell or cease producing certain brands as part of a strategy reevaluation.

The job cuts are likely to be approved when GM's board of directors meets in early August. The reduction would be in addition to earlier announced cuts. The management may also suggest options for raising additional cash to help GM make it through the downturn, and may discuss cutting certain brands, the sources said.

Both moves are part of a broader re-evaluation of GM's strategy and of its ability to meet an internal projection of returning to profitability in 2010, these people said.

GM denied the report.

"No other GM brand (besides Hummmer) is under strategic review, GM spokesman Tony Cervone said in an e-mail to Automotive News today.

GM's sales chief Mark LaNeve, made similar comments to journalists last week.

GM sells under eight different brands, but most, including Buick, Saturn and Saab, struggle to attract buyers. The company has already decided to put its Hummer division up for sale and prospective buyers are thought to include Mahindra & Mahindra.

On the job cuts, GM employs 76,000 white-collar workers globally, with the bulk of the force based in North America, said the report.

All but Cadillac and Chevrolet, which GM considers core to its business, are undergoing close scrutiny, other people said.

In the past few years, as GM has run up massive losses, some board members and some executives have on occasion raised questions about its plethora of brands, only to be rebuffed by CEO Rick Wagoner, the paper said.

The company, hit by rising oil and raw material prices, the credit crunch and the housing downturn, will need to raise as much as $15 billion (9.6 billion euros) in cash to shore up liquidity and bankruptcy is "not impossible" if the U.S. auto market continues to slump, Merrill Lynch said last week.

Thomson Financial and Reuters contributed to this report

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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2008, 10:01:38 PM »

Read a news report today that a GM exec sent an email out to all dealerships claiming that aside from Hummer, no other GM brands are being considered for sale or contraction.  Also said the dealers will be kept in the loop early if anything changes.  I believe the link is on MSNBC, if anyone is interested.

Could be just PR, but it gives me some hope that GMC may not be dead just yet.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 05:13:01 PM »

This topic somehow shifted from the original story. the original story from GMI was that two products from GMC were getting cut, including the next gen Acadia in the 2011-2012 timeframe. It was specifically pointed out that GMC was NOT being cut. So my take all along has been how can you cut the (probably) most profitable and (certainly) most fuel efficient GMC made in this economy? Assuming GMC stays intact, and there's no reason to believe it won't based on both the original post AND these new updates stating the same, how can they keep the gas hogs and cut the fuel efficient model?

As I said in my first reply, I expect this story to fall on its face soon.
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2008, 08:02:00 PM »

I would expect the Acadia to go hybrid, before it is cut.
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2008, 08:44:42 PM »

Not so Fast! I just read in the latest issue of Popular Mechanics that the 2010 Acadia and Enclave will get the same TDI Diesel that goes into the Cadillac CTS in 2010.  I, for one, am happy about that.  blob
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2008, 10:06:37 PM »

What kind of mileage will be expected?
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2008, 05:00:54 PM »

With no truly unique light car/truck models, GMC is obviously redundant except as a marketing scheme (which is how GMC began selling  light duty vehicles in the first place).   And their line up is all SUVs and trucks, anathema in today's rush toward fuel efficiency.  But that doesn't explain how it got to be GM's 3rd largest selling brand - they must be doing something right. But does it make sense to revamp the GMC product line with small cars and hybrids? Probably not, except that the GMC brand name might bring in customers that Chevy might not.

GM surely believes that customers who buy GMC (and Saturn too) would buy Chevy or Pontiac instead. I'm not so sure. I know I was a lot more enthusiastic for a GMC car than counterparts from another division.  We were looking at an Envoy when the Acadia came out - a Trailblazer was not in the running, even though there is little real difference from an Envoy.  We have owned a few Chevies in the past, mostly because of financial incentives, but that's not where my mindset is. For me, the loss of the GMC brand would lead me to look elsewhere first.

I always felt that GMC itself did little to promote the Acadia in terms of advertising. People still come up to me and ask what it is and "I didn't know GMC had a car like that" is a frequent comment.

 I initially wanted an 09 Traverse the only thing that berought me to the Acadia was the fact that I wasn't going to be able to take delivery of a new 09 Traverse till after the middle of Oct and I needed it at the beginning of the month. My lease van is a Pontiac and I also own a Chev Malibu and have owned Buicks etc so I run the gamut for GM vehicles and I truly like them all equally. If the acadia gets axed I will purchase my replacement accordingly be it a Traverse (if it is the same vehicle) at that time or the Pontiac version I am not too pickly about the brand of GM vehicle I buy but I always buy GM.
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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 02:16:10 AM »

I think that given GM's management history, scrapping the Acadia for a possible short term gain could happen.  However, why not scrap the Yukon and improve the Hybrid engine with a few more mpg and offer the Acadia as others have suggested?  The truck and suv are on their way out as the hybrid and other "green" options will take their place in the not so distant future, but the Acadia seems to impress for now.  I guess we will see what managerial screw-up GM can come up with this time and hope it doesn't involve the Acadia in a negative way. 
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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 08:12:09 AM »

 Ditto Mncm.

To many of us, GM making a good (and obvious) management decision to keep and even enhance the Acadia would serve a lot of purposes, including but not the least of which would be to make the buying public happy. I'm certain that their market research indicates to them that consumers are clamoring for an Acadia or her sister Lambdas.  By every indication GM has hit a home run by trotting out and improving the Acadia to grab a corner on the market that straddles SUV's, trucks and sedans. It seems to me that building on this particular badge would draw in those customers who don't want the headaches and poor gas mileage from trucks and SUV's while offering comfort, passenger cabin room, stowing capacity, and the ability to tow moderate to light weight trailers/boats (with the trailering package of course). To us it would be a no brainer. To the powers-that-be in Detroit, it must be something else . . .  :Smiley  wink

But I guess that would be too much like right . . . Huh?   :Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2008, 01:11:28 PM »

If they discontinue the Acadia[GMC Line] in 3 years or less and if I put mine in storage around that time, will my 1st year Acadia be a collectors item worth $200,000 in 20 years?  Like an old Hudson?
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2008, 02:43:11 PM »

Let's wait and see . . . Grin
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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2008, 03:56:55 PM »

I enjoy driving mine too much to do that.  Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2008, 04:35:04 PM »

I enjoy driving mine too much to do that.  Smiley

Ya, but I'm looking for the $$$$$  Don't you know!  Return in investment!  blob
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