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post #1 of 123 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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NAVIGATION LOCKOUT BYPASS for about $3 bucks- STEP BY STEP WITH PICTURES

We just purchased a 2008 Acadia last week, and it is very annoying that the passenger cannot enter an address while the car is moving. I have heard of the products from coastaletech, but I assume if this is installed it will void the mfg warranty on the Nav system. I have searched the internet, and I have found on the chevy and corvette forums, that there is a secret DIAG, or someway to get to "temporarily" disable the NAV issue. Has anyone had any success beyond using an aftermarket product to fix the NAV issue?

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Re: entering an address destination into NAV while car is moving

Blue/Gold-my favorite color ! Anyway obviously the system is set up so that you can't enter stuff while driving, but I'm not sure "fooling" the system will void your warranty.

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Re: entering an address destination into NAV while car is moving

The use of aftermarket devices and voiding of warranties is a popular topic. The law that covers this situation from what I have read is the Magnuson-Moss act. In effect, the burden of proof is on the car maker to show that the aftermarket device caused the problem.

Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty.[1] This is commonly referred to as the "tie-in sales" provisions[2], and is frequently mentioned in the context of third-party computer parts, such as memory and hard drives.

See also:
http://www.pt-tuning.com/policies/Magn-Moss-Act.html

The Coastaltech device has been used in many radios w/o causing any problems, so I don't see where it would be a problem. I have one for my Dodge & really like it. In any event, they are easily removable if you are concerned about a warranty issue.

I'm not aware of any other way to trick the system into allowing input while in motion.

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Re: entering an address destination into NAV while car is moving

Thanks for the help... I will look into the products from coastaletech.

This is the trick I found on the web from a different site. I haven't been able to get it to work.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...e-driving.html

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Thanks for the help... I will look into the products from coastaletech.

This is the trick I found on the web from a different site. I haven't been able to get it to work.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...e-driving.html
That "work around" was posted in 07; has anyone else tried this; I don't have NAV but I would like to know if this glitch is valid

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I read through that entire Cadillac thread, the nav units they were doing this on were circa 2004, some 2005 and one 2006. As far as I know, these are a different model than what is in the Lambda vehicle we drive.

Seems like the trick would be to hit up someone with a programmer at a dealer & have them unlock it for you*. You'd probably need to cultivate a relationship first, as the big L (liability) would pop up if anyone found out about it.

* Figuring this feature is programmable via software, which I don't know for sure.

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Re: entering an address destination into NAV while car is moving

As an update, I did some searching on this topic and from what I've read the programmer (Tech 2) cannot activate the nav or DVD in motion features. At this point, it is a Lockpick or similar device.

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NAVIGATION LOCKOUT BYPASS for about $3 bucks- STEP BY STEP WITH PICTURES

(Please be patient, there are alot of pictures)

I have a 2008 Acadia SLT-2 with factory navigation, dvd player, radio, back up camera, etc. I wanted something cheap & simple to use that will allow my passenger to enter addresses while moving.

I looked into other electronic add on alternatives but they had many features that I did not need. I simply do not need the ability for me or the passenger see the dvd while moving, or use the back up camera when not in reverse or have extra cameras, etc. I also wanted something very simple to use as my wife and our parents who are in their 60's use my car from time to time. They simply would not remember which button to hit, how many times they need to hit it or any other sequence of buttons to get it to work.



I decided to install a simple on/off switch I got from Radio Shack for $2.99 plus tax to the nav's vehicle speed sensor to trick the nav into believing that the car was not moving. This allowed me to enter addresses and bypass the nav lockout at any speed. This is the switch I got: http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062523

My inspiration came from this mod I found for corvettes: http://www.kawal.net/navigation.htm

Step 1: remove the radio trim






Step 2: remove the 4 bolts holding the radio with a 7mm socket and slide the radio out slightly.



Step 3: The VSS wire is located in the brown radio connector closest to the driver's side. It is the green/white wire at the 5th "slot". I simply cut the wire and spliced 2 additional pieces of wire that end up going to the switch. Run the new wires down and under the radio. Reconnect the brown connector to the radio and rebolt the radio to the dash.







Step 4: I decided to mount the switch into the small cubby next to the accessory power outlet. I temporarily "hung" the radio trim to the top of the dash to have better access to the lower center console.


Step 5: Remove the lower center console trim which is held on by clips. Start at the back and work your way forward. As you are going forward tilt the back up higher and higher as there are tabs that go into the dash. If you just try to lift the whole piece up you will break the tabs. Please be careful as the plastic seems really fragile. You will also need to put the gear selector out of Park so the trim will clear as it is removed.







As you can see in the last photo I also pulled out the side trim panel to see what was holding it in but it is not necessary for you to do this.

Step 6: Remove the 2 phillips screws that hold the lower cubby and unfasten the electrical connectors to the switches and power outlet.



Step 7: Drill out the cubby where you want to mount the switch. I bent the switch contacts in as I thought it would clear the center console between the seats. Since it did not, I had to notch the center console so the switch would clear. In retrospect, I could have just drilled a hole through this too and not bend the contacts for a cleaner installation. This is not an issue as the trim will be covering all of this from view.




Step 8: Reconnect the connectors and refasten the lower cubby to the dash and then put all the trim back. Here is the finished switch.




Now when driving just normally have the switch so the nav always gets the VSS signal. Everything functions as normal.

When the lockout occurs and you need to enter addresses simply flip the switch and the lockout is gone. After entering your information just flip the switch back to normal position so the nav will retrack your position after 1-2 seconds.

Here is the car traveling 35 mph. As you can see there is no lockout after I flip the switch. I can select "address entry" and enter an address.




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Re: NAVIGATION LOCKOUT BYPASS for about $3 bucks- STEP BY STEP WITH PICTURES

AWESOME!!! great job! So here is another question.

If there is a dvd playing, does the screen go to the dvd movie? or is this a function of "park only"

Thanks man! this is something I am going to do soon!

mods.. this should be stickied!

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Re: NAVIGATION LOCKOUT BYPASS for about $3 bucks- STEP BY STEP WITH PICTURES

Awesome writeup! I had seen other sites discuss this approach to overcoming the lockout. I unfortunately already installed a Costal Tech lockpick (most because I did want some of the other features), but had I not needed the other features, this is the way I would go!

I'm sure lots of people will be doing this mod
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